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Post by Little on Jan 18, 2012 9:31:14 GMT -5
Not all of the opposers went on black out- but almost all of them have something on their websites. Look at the very top of the page above the Playground picture.
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Post by Solora Goldsun on Jan 18, 2012 9:42:23 GMT -5
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Post by Little on Jan 18, 2012 9:49:56 GMT -5
You know what bothers me? What really pisses me off? Why are they throwing so much money and legislation towards this? Why not go after the websites featuring rape videos, child pornography and other clearly illegal and disgusting acts? Get your hands on those people first. It's because the big businesses are wanting to monopolize the internet- censoring what they don't like.
Piracy is bad. There I said that. <.< But honestly- this bill lost site of its intial intentions and turned from a stop piracy bill to let's censor the internet and make it easier for people to sue each other bill.
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Post by Solora Goldsun on Jan 18, 2012 13:40:00 GMT -5
Well, the White House says "we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global internet".
Let's hope that translates to a VETO!
And I agree. Kill the porn sites. The human race can do without them!
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Post by datdude on Jan 18, 2012 14:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by kruelonestar123 on Jan 18, 2012 15:23:31 GMT -5
fellas, ya'll need to understand that obama aint nothin but a liar. so of course there going to trick people into thinkin that they wanna kill them bills. its because them folks at the white house wants to KILL OPPOSITION! so that way them folks can pass it without much of a fight. same thing with the N.D.A.A. that liar be tellin them that he was gonna veto the thing and the next thing we see is that on new years eve... he sighns it when everyone was partyin and watchin them balls drop at time sq. the ndaa give's them folks at the w.h. to arrest and detain ANYONE that they think , remember "THINK" is under the suspicion of helpin them terrorists and ya'll can be put under MILITARY custody in secret so aint nobody knowin were or what happen to ya. oh and here is the best part, ya'll can be held until the so called "war on terror" ends and you aint got no rights to a lawyer and aint no trials to show you aint no terrorist.that right there is what we call "unconstitutional " listen here folks don't trust a single word them white house folks tellin you. if you can go to them google sites and click in that there black cencor box on google and sigh that there petition, share it on f.b. and then go to the now blacked out wikipedia and enter the zip code to call them congress reps and tell them not to be votin for pipa and sopa. trust me ya'll, we in this together and dont belive into the false hope them white house folks be givin you. if ya'll can PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take 10 min of your time to look at this here video :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxlWjvziP9I&feature=plcp&context=C387a2dbUDOEgsToPDskInIGufAxdM95Ryrr61qv-- this here will show ya'll whats the current stat of the sopa and pipa , now if ya'll will excuse me i have a call to congress to make.
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Post by kruelonestar123 on Jan 18, 2012 15:27:45 GMT -5
p.s. havent ya' ll even notice how they dident even say they were goin to kill the bill, only that they do not "support" stuff like this.... yeah.. i aint buyin it.
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Post by kruelonestar123 on Jan 18, 2012 15:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by Purple-Cat-Princess on Jan 18, 2012 16:48:12 GMT -5
@krue, please remember to keep it polite, with proper respect for the other side of the debate, and make sure you're only debating the SOPA and PIPA bills, not just opposing things because you don't like the President or his methods.
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Post by kruelonestar123 on Jan 18, 2012 17:01:58 GMT -5
@purple trust me, i aint tryin to insultin anybody, im just sayin that there just tryin to kill opposition protest for sopa and just like they did with them other bills, so dont belive every thing them whit house people tryin to tell ya'll. thats all im tryin to get across.
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Post by sadie on Jan 18, 2012 20:51:49 GMT -5
Oh man I hope this doesn't get through, they will just end up pushing things underground and stimulate crime. They will make things more difficult no doubt but people will just go risky illegal routes to get around it.
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Post by Solora Goldsun on Jan 18, 2012 21:49:20 GMT -5
So true... There are many dangers involved beyond the deletion of Fanfiction (WHICH IS UNTHINKABLE!).
May I direct your attention to a law that was passed in the 1920's called the Prohibition Act. This banned the selling and consumption of alcohol in the US. As a result, underground crime and gang wars skyrocketed. People made bathtub whiskey and went to speakeasies.
What do you think limiting the internet will cause? I cringe to think about it...
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Post by Aenrhien on Jan 18, 2012 21:57:40 GMT -5
Fandom could still easily continue to thrive, even if SOPA/PIPA does pass. The idea of fandom predates the internet; hell, even fanfic is older than the internet, since they sold fanzines that had fanfiction in them. But we have an advantage over that even if it does pass, and that advantage is the invention of instant messaging and email. If they ban fansites, people will just move their fandoms from public places like forums, Livejournal and Tumblr and into smaller places like chat rooms.
I don't want SOPA to pass, but if (god forbid) it does, fandom as a whole can still continue to exist and even grow.
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Post by kruelonestar123 on Jan 18, 2012 22:30:08 GMT -5
I hope Aen ... That ya'll are right ... Cuz it aunt just fanfic.net... It's deviant art that gonna be taken down. As as a person who tryin to learn how to learn art... That s very upsetting. Fanfic's are pretty important to them fanbase's. For cryin out loud I JUST finished readin this here "mending the breach" that solora just made. And let me tell ya'll that solora did one mighty fine job. I ain't gonna lie , it's one of the smartest written fan fic's I read. Them words were written mighty fine and so was the story. And solora if u readin this... Tell y'all right now... Y'all got me hooked. I'm now one of them..."brex" fanboys... And it's BECAUSE of theses things that make Candice so damn good. So that why not too long ago I called my state reps, they were nice so imma hopein them folks do the right thing, and vote agianst them bills.
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Post by Aenrhien on Jan 18, 2012 22:33:12 GMT -5
Has anyone ever informed you that you tend to ramble... or that your typing is hard to read? Since both of those things are kinda more than a little true.
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