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Post by perhapsormaybe on Nov 10, 2010 22:30:21 GMT -5
I've gotta start out by asking this....
Does anyone actually like this guy? He's a total jerk, his refusal to ever compromise or realize that Rex is just a kid can be infuriating.
So what I want to know is, does anyone feel he's justified? Is he just a jerk because...well, he's a jerk, or is it all 'for the greater good'?
Also, keeping milk in a drawer is weird. I'm just saying.
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Post by datdude on Nov 10, 2010 23:12:55 GMT -5
I don't like White at all. I think hes a evo phonic man traped in a box that got the big job because hes A ruthless and B the powers behind providence know hes desperate to get out of that box and wont till the nanites are gone.
The original M. Rex comic called him " a vet " when asked of what war Six replied "The next one"
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Post by Lina Trinch on Nov 15, 2010 22:59:32 GMT -5
"Also, keeping milk in a drawer is weird. I'm just saying."
Agreed. XD In the most hilarious way possible. ANYWHO! I've been dying to try and delve into WK's character a little, so here's my chance on this.
His thinkings from the last episode (Plague) was justifiable. I mean the part where he's the one running Providence b/c he'll never turn EVO is a real plus on a resume. Also, just to put it out there, I don't like the guy, at all, as shown in my fanfics.
BUT, WK is a real world character. He is willing to sacrifice New York City if it means keeping something out of the rest of the world. Yes, it is... a horrible way to look at things, but it's a real world stand point. The way he treats everyone as 'expendable' is also a good/horrible trait about him. In case someone goes rogue or traitor, he won't think twice about giving the order to take them out (or do it himself and frame Iron Man).
Honestly, I think Six would be exactly like this (if not, worse) if he was stuck in that office and not interracting with Rex, Holiday, Bobo, etc. on a daily basis. I mean, he's so stoic as it is.
But anyway, my point. This guy (that I don't like) is a real world person. What makes this show really stand out is him. That black and white line of bad guy/good guy is severly blurred. For a cartoon, that was a BIG decision for MoA's part... and a good one.
Same goes for Kleiss. He's the bad guy... but you see his reasons... (It's like X-Men all over again).
Ok, enough ranting >.< blurgh
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Post by LizBeth1 on Nov 16, 2010 15:47:33 GMT -5
"Also, keeping milk in a drawer is weird. I'm just saying." Honestly, I think Six would be exactly like this (if not, worse) if he was stuck in that office and not interracting with Rex, Holiday, Bobo, etc. on a daily basis. I mean, he's so stoic as it is. .... Same goes for Kleiss. He's the bad guy... but you see his reasons... Yeah, you're probably right about Six being like White if Holi and the rest weren't around. In fact, i find it perfectly believeable that Six WAS just like him before Rex and by extension, the rest, came along. Their presence has sofened him a little. I mean, he is still a really hard charecter,, but if you hit him with a baseball pat, he would at least give a little now instead of just being a hard brick wall. Honestly, i don't like White much. It isin't so much any one specific thing that makes me want to push him off a cliff and into shark infested waters- it is everything. Every little breath of quadruple filtered air that he breaths makes me hate him a little bit more from just my body's natural protection against people like him. It is weird, but i can honestly say i sympathise more with Van Keiless than i ever will with Knight. |
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Post by Lina Trinch on Nov 16, 2010 19:38:58 GMT -5
It is weird, but i can honestly say i sympathise more with Van Keiless than i ever will with Knight. That's true. BUT I hope you're not going off of Breakeven with this one. (For the rest of you, that's my fanfic lol) Anyway, in Breakeven, I CONTINUOUSLY bash White by keeping with the decisions that make him a total jerk. LikeKillingHolidayAnywho, Kleiss isn't a saint himself. I think as far as evil/good things go, Kleiss and White are about on the same levels, just on opposite sides of the debate. Oh and YES, there is a White Knight fangirl out there! XD I forgot to mention that! She's been writing a fic over at FF.Net called 'Of Course' (which is hilarious, btw). Anyway, yeah,... WK fangirl... Ok, that's it. lol |
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Post by LizBeth1 on Nov 16, 2010 20:44:09 GMT -5
That's true. BUT I hope you're not going off of Breakeven with this one. Not at all hun, I know plenty of things from the cannon that makes me hate him. lol No worries. |
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Post by theendreaper on Nov 20, 2010 3:33:37 GMT -5
I'm actually a big fan of White...
(As far as I can tell) He doesn't do things to be mean or anything, but because he's thinking of doing stuff for the greater good. Y'know? It's like he only looks at the big picture.
I imagine to end up the way he is something would have had to happen, like loss of a loved one who died in a very sacrifice-y way, like trying to save a large group of people even though they knew that it would kill them.
Or something like that.
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Post by Lina Trinch on Nov 20, 2010 11:30:45 GMT -5
(As far as I can tell) He doesn't do things to be mean or anything, but because he's thinking of doing stuff for the greater good. Y'know? It's like he only looks at the big picture. I imagine to end up the way he is something would have had to happen, like loss of a loved one who died in a very sacrifice-y way, like trying to save a large group of people even though they knew that it would kill them. Yeah, but, that's why I don't like him. In the real world, he's the voice of reason and logic and will (ultimately) save the world and the greater good for the sacrifices that he makes. But I'm still not found of his sacrifices. I think it's mostly the position he's in that I don't like. Other than that (back in the day's when he was a grunt), it was the fact that he seemed to enjoy his job a bit too much was the reason that I still didn't like him. (Also, that bleeding hearts comment he made about Holiday.) As for that last paragraph, I imagined that something like that happened to Six before 'Promises, Promises'. We still don't really know why he's so stoic and aggro, keeping people at a distance and all. Then again, it may just be his nature, but I doubt it. |
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Post by LizBeth1 on Nov 20, 2010 12:41:33 GMT -5
Actually, he sacrificed himself, that is why he is insane. Personally, i would think that the evo killer machine that killed his nanites killed his pain too, but he was already a jerk.
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Post by cybra on Nov 20, 2010 17:00:26 GMT -5
I don't like Knight as a person. To me, he's the kind of guy you want to punch in the face every time you have to talk to him. Even in "Promises, Promises" I didn't like him. Tried to. Lord knows I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt and look at him as if I'd never seen him before, but he still made me want to hit him. (And I know he'd totally own me if I tried.)
However, I do respect him. He willingly traded his opportunity to escape what became his prison to save Six from what would've most likely been death (or, as it turned out, at least Six ending up as the guy stuck in the box). I see you, AU plotbunnies. Back off! He's incredibly capable in combat and willing to make decisions no one else wants to even if certain Providence agents will go against his orders. For all that and more, I can honestly respect him.
But I still don't like him.
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Post by LizBeth1 on Nov 20, 2010 19:05:14 GMT -5
I hade a revelation during my 5th viewing of this Episode. People died in the process of making White's office a place where he could acctually live. To bring in anything, for instange, desk, bed, computer, they woulof have to 'bleach' it like they did him, so it wouldnt have any nanites that would infect him. To set the office up, as in run the wires and whatnot, people would have had to have been bleached to some degree or another to even enter the office. But, there is a noticable absence of other people there. There is even this huge deal about there being NO OTHER people who are nanite free. So, i propose this, White had another, adjacent bleaching room built into providence, and that is where they sent everything and every one, to be bleached so they could enter the origfinal room to do their job, then White would kill them so he could continue to be the only nanite free person. Or maybe the bleaching is really some severe form of radiation, and it killed the others, and for some reason, white is the only one to have survived.
Ranting about theorys, but it hit me, that this COULD REALLY HAVE HAPPENED.
(Insane theory was created by Lina and Laruna, together.)
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Post by cybra on Nov 20, 2010 19:38:03 GMT -5
Interesting theory. Plausible if a bit disturbing.
Or it could be something simpler like the equipment was mostly assembled and then bleached in a separate chamber so that Knight could put the rest together himself. If it's the former, I'll be weirded out since you'd think he'd be all for more pure humans.
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Post by LizBeth1 on Nov 20, 2010 19:42:53 GMT -5
..But...but... that would make it to easy. it is cheating....
plus, White could be for more purity, but think about it, he enjoys his position as the ONLY pure human entirely too much. Sure, it has regulated him to a box, but he has way more power than he ever would if bleaching is something that could be accomplished fairly simply, and they could have others safely bleached like he was.
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Post by cybra on Nov 20, 2010 20:31:36 GMT -5
Actually, I really don't think that it'd be all that easy to bleach other people safely. They'd have to replicate the accident that bleached Knight perfectly with Rex stopping the process at precisely the right time for there to be even a chance that the other people would survive. I suppose it's possible that they tried it as experiments for a possible cure, but I doubt that anyone who volunteered (or any EVOs that were volunteered for the process) survived.
Knight may or may not think very highly of his "only pure human" status, but I doubt he'd want pure humans to die with him. If you really want to be creepy, it's possible he might want to bleach a woman so that they could breed more pure humans to take over Providence in case the EVO War outlasts his lifetime.
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Post by LizBeth1 on Nov 20, 2010 20:39:41 GMT -5
*blink* Actually, i had already thought of that. Not exactly the breeding part per say, but the whole bleach a woman thing. But yes, that is extremely creepy. Somehow, it even more creepy than White killing people. My goodness, could you even imagine what a kid who literally spent every single moment of his life in a box with white? Somehow, it makes me think of that little blond girl from Breech.
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