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Post by Little on Nov 2, 2011 13:44:25 GMT -5
This might be a little bit of a more 'adult' discussion but I'm curious.
Scenario:
A 16 year old boy and a 19 year old girl have sex. The girl ends up pregnant. The girl can face charges of statutory rape- but the sex was consentual. Does the boy still have responsibility to take care of the child?
Scenario 2:
A 16 year old girl and a 19 year old boy have sex. The girl ends up pregnant. The boy can face charges of statutory rape- but the sex was consentual. Does the boy still have responsibility to take care of the child?
And yes, this is as a result of the Bieber Scandal. I don't know if the kid is his or not, don't really care. I just was curious about other people's opinions on the scenarios.
Due to the boy's age in scenario 1- is he absolved of his responsibility to the child?
Due to the boy's age in scenario 2- what would the difference be?
I am not in anyway condoning or encouraging underage sex or unprotected sex. Just curious if you are old enough to know, participate, and knowingly choose to engage in unprotected sex- when is the age of responsibility?
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Post by Solora Goldsun on Nov 2, 2011 14:25:21 GMT -5
I think that sex is only okay if you are an adult out of college with a steady job. That way, you have SOME security in case something unexpected happens.
The boy always has responsibility to help support the child if the girl decides to keep it. He can't just leave her to fend for herself. She deserves financial support at the very least from the boy or his family.
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Post by cybra on Nov 2, 2011 14:28:03 GMT -5
I'll admit that I haven't paid a lick of attention to the Beiber case.
However, I do have a strong opinion on the responsibility issue, and I apologize in advance if it offends.
In my head, at 16 you know better. Unless the 16 year-old is mentally challenged or otherwise handicapped from making informed decisions, he's just as responsible as the 19 year-old.
Please note: I'm not including alcohol or other substances as being handicapped. I'm assuming this is a scenario in which both participants were using their own unaltered cognitive abilities.
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Post by Little on Nov 2, 2011 14:36:15 GMT -5
In my head, at 16 you know better. Unless the 16 year-old is mentally challenged or otherwise handicapped from making informed decisions, he's just as responsible as the 19 year-old. This was my thoughts as well. I know at 16 years old, I knew what caused a girl to get pregnant and many many ways to prevent it. (not that I'd ever need it but still). Repsonsibility falls to both kids involved of course, but the boy should not be allowed to get out of that resposibility because he's 'just a baby'. He knew what he was doing when he was doing it. |
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Post by datdude on Nov 2, 2011 14:53:51 GMT -5
Ok 2 things i need to say here
1 according to current dead beat dad laws if the 19 year old girl had the kid witht he 16 year old the 16 year old could get hit with 2 years back child support when he turns 18. Its one hell of a crooked scam but it happens. Also the fathers life is kind of sc**wed over by it.
2 though in my sate 16 is age of consent im 99% sure the parent of guardain of the 16 year old could press charges for " Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor" its not statutory rape but its still a crime. Im not sure of the penalty or if it gets you on the megans law list.
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Post by Little on Nov 2, 2011 15:05:53 GMT -5
1 according to current dead beat dad laws if the 19 year old girl had the kid witht he 16 year old the 16 year old could get hit with 2 years back child support when he turns 18. Its one hell of a crooked scam but it happens. Also the fathers life is kind of sc**wed over by it. And what of the girl's life? She's labelled as a slut and has to carry around that stigmata of a 'single mother'. No. Doesn't matter. He was old enough to put his doodle in her diddle then he is old enough to face the responsibilities of it. And he should be hit with two years backed child support if he hadn't been paying or taking care of the child that he helped make. and on your second statement- it varies from state to state. And contributing to the delinquency of a minor would be a plausible charge. I doubt with such a minor age difference if it would be a conviction. |
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Post by xXSpiritKeeperXx on Nov 2, 2011 15:17:42 GMT -5
...Oh god no not Beiber again *shoves head under pillow* Regarding the actual conversation: What?! If this is true, then I have more info to say that he's... horrible. I hate how the media blows up the fact that he's a teenager handsome young man, and that his singing is nonsensical and cliche beautiful and charming, and that he has been molded to make money out of tweens is famous and wonderful! SARCASM FTW >  |
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Post by datdude on Nov 2, 2011 15:46:19 GMT -5
1 according to current dead beat dad laws if the 19 year old girl had the kid witht he 16 year old the 16 year old could get hit with 2 years back child support when he turns 18. Its one hell of a crooked scam but it happens. Also the fathers life is kind of sc**wed over by it. And what of the girl's life? She's labelled as a slut and has to carry around that stigmata of a 'single mother'. No. Doesn't matter. He was old enough to put his doodle in her diddle then he is old enough to face the responsibilities of it. And he should be hit with two years backed child support if he hadn't been paying or taking care of the child that he helped make. and on your second statement- it varies from state to state. And contributing to the delinquency of a minor would be a plausible charge. I doubt with such a minor age difference if it would be a conviction. I was quoting one incident i read about once in the event of the reverse the guy pays child support and is labled a megans law case |
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Post by Violette on Nov 2, 2011 19:36:36 GMT -5
I agree that no matter what, if the girl decides to keep the child, both parents need to assume responsibility, no matter how old they are.
As for Beiber, if the kid really is his, he better step up!
andthatwasmy100thpost!!
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Post by datdude on Nov 2, 2011 20:04:02 GMT -5
should and do are to very diffrent words. Turst me i used to process dead beat dad checks of the state on new jersey . . . . you wouldnt believe the mountains of checks i saw.
but back to the bieber not his kid no way.
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Post by Purple-Cat-Princess on Nov 2, 2011 20:31:06 GMT -5
Honestly, since it is Beiber that sparked the debate, the kid is making millions. He can support a kid. Even if he isn't there for it, he can monetarily pay for it.
Straight up, if you think you're old enough to be having sex, you're gonna deal with the consequences. Rape is my only exception if the girl is raped, she shouldn't have to deal with the baby if she doesn't feel she can handle it. If it's mutually conceptual get your *ss in a job both of you. If you're old enough to have sex, you're old enough to be called a slut and take it then keep going with life. And if you get a frickin' TV show you deserve to go to Hell. God I hate those girls who sell out because they got pregnant as teens and are now on TV. (off topic there on the last bit.)
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Post by datdude on Nov 2, 2011 20:39:48 GMT -5
I hate thoses tv shows too it glamorizes having a kid before your old enough.
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Post by Violette on Nov 3, 2011 15:24:30 GMT -5
I did this project in eighth grade where I had to take a baby doll home for one night, just to see what it was like. This doll was programmed to act like a normal baby would, and is designed to give students an idea of just how difficult caring for a child is.
It kept me up all night.
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Post by Little on Nov 3, 2011 16:02:10 GMT -5
I did this project in eighth grade where I had to take a baby doll home for one night, just to see what it was like. This doll was programmed to act like a normal baby would, and is designed to give students an idea of just how difficult caring for a child is. It kept me up all night. Gah we did the same thing, in sophmore year in hs though. ^_^ we actually were the only 'pair' that passed. -_- we were also the only pair that didn't drop it, light it on fire, take the battery out, throw it, or drop it in water...OH or run over it. |
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Post by cybra on Nov 3, 2011 16:19:55 GMT -5
Never had to do this project. we were also the only pair that didn't drop it, light it on fire, take the battery out, throw it, or drop it in water...OH or run over it. That's disturbing. |
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